"Neptune in the 12th house is the most sensitive place for Neptune; this is the planet's natural house. Neptune here makes you incredibly sensitive to the forces operating in the unconscious. Dennis Nilsen (serial murderer) has this position of Neptune (unaspected) and he described himself as the "drowning boy".  Nilson's victims were only found because the drains were blocked in his apartment building and no one could work out why. The reason soon became clear when they found the remains of dead bodies floating under there.

"Neptune in the 4th house is placed in the personal home, it represents our inner feelings and relates to the past. Neptune in the fourth house can describe feelings of being inwardly lost."

"The Neptune person can come on strong at the outset, and then slowly fade away, or in some cases abruptly leave. Most of the time, he or she hangs around, whether physically or (and most of the time) psychically. It’s hard to get the Neptune person out of your system, mainly because there can be a lack of closure, a lack of answers as to why that person “faded out”, became inaccessible, or disappeared."

'Many contemporary astrologers today mostly agree with the concept that the outer planets affect them in both their birth chart and by transits to sensitive points in the birth chart. However, it is my opinion that this cannot be so. The reason behind my thinking is quite simple. Who among the many readers of this page can readily fly an airliner? Or control a multinational organization? Successfully lead an army of soldiers into battle? The point is these feats are possible but unless you have had the training and experience the probability of simply doing so is beyond your reach.'

The C*I*A - For Neptune's  Return, we made a movie - Full length movie 30 minutes available Nov 2009 - Include intervies with Brian Clark and Ed Tamplin. This 9 min version can be viewed on You Tube.Neptune's return to its discovery degree at 25 Aquarius occurs in 2009 and 2010. Initially discovered in 1846, this marks its first full revolution since human awareness of this planet.

"In Escape from freedom, social psychologist Erich Fromm suggests that the reason Hitler was so successful in gaining power over people was that he has expressed what the masses felt at the time: "the craving for power over men and the longing for submission to an overwhelmingly strong outside power." Astrologically, this domination/submission instinct is represented by Pluto (which is often associated with sadomasochism.)"

"Man, the Utopian — yes. Because we can be this Utopian, we as humans. Very likely, the ant does not dream of an ant Utopia; the ant's next step in evolution is not a vision in the ant's mind, for, after all these millions of years, that vision would have begun to take shape — there is presumably no "next step" for the ant as an ant. But humanity advances; we advance because we can dream of Venus rising out of the Neptunian ocean of new possibilities.

"Imagine yourself lying down to sleep, and as you roll over, you begin to dream. Soon you’re swept away to a beautiful field of poppies and snapdragons. You feel alive, free and unbound as you breeze through the flowers. As if in a trance, you lift off your feet and begin to fly high into the air over the fields below. You have forgotten the petty concerns of your everyday life and are ecstatically merged with the moment, this dream, this experience.

"Neptune is a gas giant in our Solar System, with a methane atmosphere. Astrologically it's considered a water planet, named for the ruler of the seas. It's symbol is the trident, and it is the natural ruler of Pisces and the 12th house. Neptune in the astrology chart can tell us in what part of life we are most susceptible to deception. The symbology of this comes from the optical illusion of looking at objects through water. Objects can assume different shapes, may be placed differently from what they appear, or may not be visible at all."

"Neptune rules things like spirituality, boundless compassion, creativity and dreams. But this same wonderful planet also rules the con man and the liar. We live in a world of opposites and these guys are two sides of the same coin.

So how do you tell the difference in self and others? When we want to apply a Neptunian event or concept in our lives, Neptune nudges us into believing that we don't have to prove anything or question anything. Just let it flow is Neptune’s anthem. "